Name: LS
Date: July 14th
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Guys, guys, guys. We misquote one and qoute another. has not the Spirit of prophecy shed enough light on revelation 10, that these events repeat at the end of time? 1840-1844 begin to repeat when the other angel comes down to empower the 3rd angel.
"Time shall be no longer" - no more time prophecies after 1844. placing the 1335 to end at a time after 1844 is misapplication of Scripture. The longest time prophecy, ends in 1844.
How does rain fall? It begins in sprinkles first, the a heavy downpour. the latter rain begins to sprinke first, then a heavy downpour.
Listen to Jeff Pipenger in context. you may not agree with every detail, as me, but the general direction seems to be truth: probationary time is about to close.
When does the sealing (for SDA) end??? Any help??
Name: webmaster
Date: July 14th
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According to all the inspired words i can find pertaining to the subject, there is no more "day for a year" prophetic principle after 1844. That has nothing at all to do with the fact that there is still time after 1844.
It is also clear that there was no "blessing" for those who came to 1843. Nothing at all happened then, which is of course when the 1335 days supposedly ended. In reading the Spirit of Prophecy, we see that these things are future. The 7 Trumpets also are ALL clearly future, as no one, let alone 144,000, have been sealed yet with the seal of the living God as of July 2009.
The sealing of the 144,000 cannot happen until right around the time of the Mark of the Beast. Thus you get two groups developed. I'm pretty sure that none of us SDAs believe that anyone has the Mark of the Beast yet, which is another strong sign that no one has the Seal of the Living God in their foreheads yet either. Please read Ezekiel 9. It shows that while the sealing is going on, the unfaithful leaders and their families are being slaughtered. The slaughtering has not occurred yet, which is another strong indication that the Sealing has not occurred yet.
The Latter Rain will not be poured out until the Shaking is over. Please read the 1858 Great Controversy book - chapters 30 - 37 to get a clear picture of the timings of the end time events.
Name: LS
Date: July 15th
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What is the seal of God according to Spirit of Prophecy? Please quote directly.
Which one happens before the other? Sunday Law or slaughter of unfaithful SDA?
Which one happens before the other? Seal of God or slaughter of unfaithful SDA?
Many of us are confused on this point. Help me out.
Name: webmaster
Date: July 15th
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Broadside #2:
"In these things I saw great danger; for if the mind is filled with other things, present truth is shut out, and there is no place in our foreheads for the seal of the living God. This seal is the Sabbath."
I am not sure about #2 or #3, but think that the slaughter is after both events. Please tell me what you have found in your studies.
Name: LS
Date: July 17th
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Spirit of Prophecy on Rev
Rev 14-17 (ch. 14:9-12). Tested by the Image.--The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed before probation closes; for it is to be the great test for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided. . . . [Revelation 13:11-17 quoted.] . . . {7BC 976.2}
This is the test that the people of God must have before they are sealed. All who proved their loyalty to God by observing His law, and refusing to accept a spurious sabbath, will rank under the banner of the Lord God Jehovah, and will receive the seal of the living God. Those who yield the truth of heavenly origin and accept the Sunday sabbath, will receive the mark of the beast (Letter 11, 1890). {7BC 976.3}
To the best of my current understanding:
IF the test has to come before God's people are sealed, so that they choose either the Mark of the Beast or the Seal of God, THEN it is LOGICAL to say that the two classes of God's people (faithful and unfaithful) be alive before the slaughter of the unfaithful (unless the slaughter is spisritual).
The seal is the Sabbath, and more accurately (emphasis mine):
What the Seal of God Is
Just as soon as the people of God are sealed in their foreheads--it is not any seal or mark that can be seen, but a settling into the truth, both intellectually and spiritually, so they cannot be moved--just as soon as God's people are sealed and prepared for the shaking, it will come. Indeed, it has begun already.--4BC 1161 (1902). {LDE 219.4}
LS
Name: LS
Date: July 17th
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I mean: The slaughter of unfaithful SDAs happens after both the faithful and unfaithful have faced the mark and have chosen either the Mark of the Beast or the Seal of God, unless that slaughter is spiritual.
Happy Sabbath to you all
LS
Name: webmaster
Date: July 19th
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That is good LS. I believe that is the correct sequence.
The slaughter is literal according to 18OM, but as it is not in Ellen White's published writings, it should not be taken as her established position: "Study the ninth chapter of Ezekiel. These words will be literally fulfilled; yet the time is passing, and the people are asleep."
Name: LS
Date: July 20th
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Good sense webmaster,
here is more
Article on The literal fulfillment of Ezekiel 9
Yours,
LS
Name: webmaster
Date: July 21st
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The article looks good LS.
I see now that you, LS, and Parousia Hope are from the same organization, and i would highly suspect, one and the same person.
It is OK to use nicknames or abbreviations here, but it is not OK to comment under two different names at the same time, as that makes people think that two different people are commenting. This is a small form of deception. If you wish to comment using two names, then please make that clearly known for all of us. Actually, not having your real name even on your website makes it look like you are trying to hide something.....
Name: Anonymous
Date: July 24th
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Notice the following statement from the Pen of Inspiration regarding the seal. It is clear that the seal is received at the sunday law test. Though it must be made clear that a great preparation must be made in order to be fit to receive the seal. The seal, however, is not received until that final test comes. Furthermore, it states that the image of the beast will be formed before probation closes.
The Lord has shown me clearly that the image of the beast will be formed before probation closes; for it is to be the great test for the people of God, by which their eternal destiny will be decided. . . . [Rev. 13:11-17 quoted.] . . .
This is the test that the people of God must have before they are sealed. All who proved their loyalty to God by observing His law, and refusing to accept a spurious sabbath, will rank under the banner of the Lord God Jehovah, and will receive the seal of the living God. Those who yield the truth of heavenly origin and accept the Sunday sabbath, will receive the mark of the beast (Letter 11, 1890).The SDA Bible Commentary, vol. 7, p. 976.
Name: webmaster
Date: July 29th
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"This is the test that the people of God must have before they are sealed."
Thank you Anonymous. This is a quote i've read and heard many times, but forgot to apply it to this situation. That is why we need each other
This is just too abundantly clear that the seal of the 144,000, God's people, is IN THE FUTURE. And if it is in the future, then where does that place the 7 Trumpets?
